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Vick left Monday Night’s game against the Patriots after two series following a vicious hit directly to his midsection. However, x-rays and a later MRI revealed no broken bones or cartilage damage. In fact, Reid said that if this was the regular season, Vick would be playing this week.
As for the hit itself, Reid said this wasn’t example of Vick being reckless or making poor decisions.
"He was trying to make somebody miss, and he wheeled backwards about 15 yards," explained Reid. " He had an available receiver down the field, and he was trying to make a play. To tell him that he can’t make that throw, you’re not going to tell him that. You just want everyone to do their job so that that doesn’t happen back there. It was when he spun around that he got caught with that."
As for how his QB can stay healthy this season?
"He’s got to play. There is a fine line here because he has to continue to play the game. It’s a violent sport where you’re going to get injuries. If you’re out there worried about that part of it, you’re not going to perform to the best of your ability. Then, you have to catch a break here or there. You have to catch a break in a positive way where you’re not absorbing the big hits."
While Vick’s health won’t be an issue heading into the opener, he won’t have had much preseason action. Vick has played just 12 snaps and thrown 7 passes.
Starting in his place will be rookie Nick Foles, who has turned in a pair of superlative performances in his first two preseason games and currently leads the NFL in QB rating. Reid says that in his extended time Monday night, they didn’t pare down the playbook for him at all.
"Well, the one thing we did was we gave him that opportunity this game. We didn’t cut anything back. He had the full load of plays there and it was a good experience for him from this standpoint: that he’s been a starter at the college level, a very successful starter, and then to learn to be a relief pitcher, that’s a learned experience there that you have. So, to get him that experience where you’re not taking any reps, he didn’t take one rep with the ones and really zero reps against the New England Patriots [in practice]. We gave the ones all those reps. But that will be very similar to what he faces during the season in a backup position. You get called on, you’ve got to be ready to step in and fire and drive the team down the field and make plays and do the things that he did a pretty good job of the other night."
The Eagles will face the Browns this Friday.
There are no broken bones or fractured cartilage in Vick's rib and abdomen areas. The tests did, however, show a rib contusion that will likely keep Vick out of Eagles' next preseason game, set for Friday night against the Cleveland Browns.
Vick was injured just six plays into Philadelphia's preseason contest against the New England Patriots on Monday when he was hit by Patriots linebacker Jermaine Cunningham after releasing a first-quarter pass.
The rib injury, which many feared to be serious given the force of the contact on the hit by Cunningham, was Vick's second injury scare this preseason. During an Aug. 9, 2012, game against the Pittsburgh Steelers, Vick hit his hand on center Jason Kelce's helmet and appeared to hurt his left thumb. X-rays taken after the play came back negative.
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Nick Foles made his preseason debut 2 weeks against Pittsburgh and was impressive going 6-10 for 144 yds and 2 TDs. His encore performance last night was even better.
The rookie from Arizona was 18-28 for 217 yds and another pair of TDs in just about 2.5 quarters of work. He had John Gruden signing his praises all night and will likely hear half the callers to Philadelphia sports radio this morning calling him to be the team's starter. Despite the accolades though, Foles says his focus has not changed.
"It's like it always is," he said. "Tomorrow I will go to work, go into the office, get a workout in and study the film, keep working and keep learning. This will be great film to learn from. There's things I can do better. There's a lot of things I can do better. Tomorrow will be a big day to learn. My mindset is to go out and be ready for anything."
Andy Reid credited Foles' comfort level last night to the increased complexity and work QBs are getting in college these days.
"First of all, he threw the ball a little bit in college and college is a little bit more sophisticated than when Donovan (McNabb) came out. I think they are seeing more, particularly from the defenses. They are more aware of the blitz game. So, I think he was better prepared coming in, and then he is a smart kid on top of that - very hard worker, very diligent."
When asked whether Foles could rise to the backup QB job as a result of his performances, Reid wouldn't commit to it, but did say that he will evaluate the position.
One of the most memorable highlights of last night’s Eagles vs Patriots game did not even happen on the field. After the Patriots scored their first touchdown of the night, head coach Andy Reid and DT Cullen Jenkins had themselves a nose to nose screaming match on the bench (see it here).
However, after the game, the two played it off as simply tempers flaring in the heat of the moment.
“It’s football,” said Jenkins. “Football causes that, if you’re out there playing, you’ve got to be emotional. It was nothing. Nothing was addressed. It’s an emotional game and sometimes you need that spark and especially now in the preseason. I’m a real competitive person and when I get out there, I want to win regardless. It wasn’t anything directed at anybody or personal like that. It wasn’t anything about a specific play; it was through the game. We’ve got a short window on where we need to be as a team and we need to come out and I don’t care if it’s preseason or not, we need to play like it. We can’t come out flat.”
“It’s an emotional game, he was fired up, I was fired up,” Reid explained. “Those things happen. Cullen’s my primary leader on the defensive line so, I count on him for a lot of things. He was upset, I was upset, we talked about it afterwards and we are okay.”
Reid even put some of the blame on his outburst on his red hair…
“Listen, it’s an emotional game. I was born with red hair, I know I don’t have much of it now. Sometimes it flares up once in a while. It’s always for the good of the football team.”
Whatever the reason, Andy going nuts may have actually worked. The Eagles defense allowed the Patriots just one first down in the second half.
The Philadelphia Eagles moved to 2-0 in the preseason with 27-17 win over the New England Patriots on Monday Night. The Eagles were led by rookie QB Nick Foles who went 18-28 for 217 yards and a pair of TDs. It's the second straight strong showing from Foles.
But the Eagles QB who made the biggest headlines was not Foles.
The story tonight, just like it was against Pittsburgh, was Michael Vick getting injured. Only this time it wasn't him banging his hand on a helmet and standing there with his thumb a cup of ice. He got crushed, helmet-first directly in the ribs. He got up slow and looked as if he was going to continue, but ended up going down to one knee and could not continue. He left the field in obvious pain, but luckily x-rays on his ribs camp back negative. He didn't return to the sideline or the game.
Everyone immediately got on Vick after the play and blamed the fact that he got hit all on him. Never mind that Evan Mathis let his man through free on Vick, who spun around to avoid that hit only to get crushed by a defender that Todd Herremans allowed through free. ESPN's Dan Graziano immediately wrote a piece claiming that Vick "doesn't get it," but from what I saw he's got to be kidding himself if he thinks Vick had even a half second to "throw the ball away" or "run out of bounds." Those just weren't possible. Now, if you want to say he should have just turtled rather than try to make a throw? He probably could have done that. I don't see any way he could have avoided a hit, but if he immediately tried to turtle he could have avoided the shot in the ribs.
Either way... The reason the play happened was the awful blocking. It's not 100% Vick's fault every time he gets hit. Yes, he has to protect himself, but his line has to protect him as well. That said, I certainly understand the frustration that comes from seeing him leave the field injured for the second straight game.
Moving on... ESPN got a lot of traction today with DeSean Jackson's quote about worrying about his health last season, but "giving it all" this time around. If tonight is any indication, he sure seems all in.
DeSean caught 4 passes for 82 yards in a little over a half of work. Plus, his tackle after a pick made for one of our favorite gifs of the night. Its good to see #10 with some swagger out there having fun. He should be in for a big year.
But the man of the night has to be Nick Foles, who turned in yet another impressive night going 18 of 28 for 217 yards and a pair of TDs in about 2.5 quarters of work. He also threw a pick while driving the team down the field at the end of the second half.
What really was impressive about Foles is how he bounced back from that pick. That's what NFL guys will tell you about QBs. Anyone can get off to a nice start, but you don't know what you have until a guy faces adversity. On Foles' first possession in the third quarter, he marched the Eagles straight down the field for a TD going 5-6 for 87 yards and a TD on the drive. The highlights were a 40 yard deep ball to DeSean Jackson and a perfectly placed throw on a cross route to Clay Harbor for a TD. That was Harbor's 2nd on the night. His first was an even prettier throw from Foles that came on the run and ended up with Harbor dotting the i in the corner to ensure the TD. Incredibly impressed by both of those guys.
Harbor finished the night with 6 catches for 30 yards and the two TDs. He's had a great camp and has been very good in preseason so far.
In the end, what can we say about the offense? Overall, the starters did play pretty well putting up 24 points over the first 2.5 quarters. But they did so against a lot of Patriots backups and they did it with Nick Foles at QB. Once again, we barely got a chance to see Vick lead the offense. He threw 3 passes... and the likelihood is that we won't see him again until week 1 at Cleveland.
The easiest way to put it, is that the defense simply did not look like a bunch of starters playing a team of backups... Problem was, they were. There were a few problems, but chief among them were penalties. They were called for 3 personal fouls! That's 45 yards! At least one came on a third down and extended a drive. Andy Reid got so angry at the penalties, he lost his temper on the sidelines and screamed right in Cullen Jenkins' face. It's as mad as I've ever seen Reid get on the sidelines.
That leads up to problem #2, getting off the field on third downs. Time and time again, more in the first half than the second, the Pats would make a play on 3rd down to extend a drive or the Eagles would take a penalty.
The main way the Pats would make those plays were screen passes. Over the first two quarters, it seemed like every other play the Pats ran was a screen and yet consistently the Eagles would fail to diagnose it. I get being fooled by a screen from time to time, but when it's seemingly the only play the opposition has? How are you not expecting it?
On the good side though, they were fantastic against the run. The Pats ran 26 times for just 53 yards, for average of 2 yards per carry.
The defense did hold New England to just one first down in the entire second half.
After one half at Gillette Stadium, the Philadelphia Eagles and New England Patriots are tied at 14-14. It was a slow start for the Eagles that was marred by an injury to quarterback Michael Vick, who left the game with injured ribs. Vick took a shot to the midsection after dropping back off of playaction. He went to the locker room for X-rays and was replaced by rookie Nick Foles.
After Ryan Mallett and the Pats marched down the field for the first touchdown of the game, Andy Reid went over to his defense for a heated discussion. Things got particularly tense with defensive tackle Cullen Jenkins, who stood up and went nose-to-nose with Reid.
That exchange on the sidelines seemed to wake up the Eagles, who quickly forced two turnovers and promptly converted them for touchdowns. The first came on a muffed punt by New England rookie Brandon Bolden. After a scrum on the bottom of the pile, Akeem Jordan emerged with the ball at the 24 yard line. The Eagles would run it three straight times to cover the final 24 yards and get on the board for the first time. LeSean McCoy kicked it outside and took it in from one yard out for the score to make it 11-7.
Two plays into the subsequent possession, the Eagles defense would force a turnover and give the ball right back to Foles and the offense. This time it was the defensive line pressuring New England quarterback Brian Hoyer. Phillip Hunt got to Hoyer and forced a fumble on just the second play of the possession. Darryl Tapp recovered the loose ball at the 12 yard line.
Foles would waste little time capitalizing on the excellent field position. On the second play of the drive, he rolled to his right and hit tight end Clay Harbor in the corner of the end zone. Harbor tip-toed to get both feet down and controlled the ball to make it 14-11.
It appeared the Patriots would force a turnover of their own on the Eagles' next possession but a replay review overturned a call on the field. Foles hit Brent Celek on a short pass to the right but Patriots linebacker Bobby Carpenter read it the whole way, closing in and making contact with Celek as soon as he turned upfield. Carpenter separated the man from the ball and Trevor Scott was there to scoop it up and scamper 22 yards for what looked like a touchdown. But review determined Celek did not have control of the ball when he was hit by Carpenter, giving the ball back to the Eagles and keeping the score at 14-14.
Foles would commit a turnover on the final possession before the half, trying to force one deep to the goal line with less than 20 seconds on the clock. New England safety Nate Ebner waited on the ball and easily picked it off to end the Eagles threat at the end of the half.
X-rays were negative on the ribs of Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Michael Vick. Vick left Monday's preseason game in the first quarter after being hit hard in the midsection by New England Patriot defensive end Jermaine Cunningham.
Vick was hit after throwing a deep pass to wide receiver DeSean Jackson that landed incomplete. Vick was slow to get up, took a few steps, then once again went to the ground before eventually walking off the field under his own power. Vick stood on the sidelines for a moment before finally heading to the locker room for x-rays.
This is very good news for the Philadelphia Eagles, who can ill-afford to lose their star quarterback. Vick has a full history of injuries, including to the ribs. He is not expected to return to tonight's contest.
Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Michael Vick left tonight's preseason game with just over six minutes remaining in the first quarter after being hit by New England Patriot defensive end Jermaine Cunningham.
With the Eagles down 3-0, Vick dropped back and threw a deep pass off his back foot to wide receiver Desean Jackson. As he released the ball, Cunningham buried Vick with a helmet to the ribs. Vick was slow to get up, took a few steps, then went back to the ground clearly in pain. He walked off the field under his own power, but he has now walked to the locker room to undergo x-rays. Backup quarterback Nick Foles has now entered the game to lead the Philadelphia Eagle offense.
Vick had completed only one pass for five yards before exiting. His injury history is well documented, so the Eagle faithful collectively hold their breath as they wait for the results of the x-rays.
Philadelphia Eagles WR DeSean Jackson has decided to come clean. When asked by ESPN's Lisa Salters about his perceived lack of effort at times due to worries about his contract last year, DeSean Jackson simply fessed up.
"I let it get to me, even though I tried not to let it," Jackson admitted. "I was trying to protect myself from getting hurt -- now I'm just giving it all."
This much was clear to pretty much anyone watching last year. Whether it was Jackson's lack of interest in even trying to return a punt or some alleged cases of alligator arms, DeSean wasn't going all out. And he's hardly the first guy to do so. But for an NFL player to admit is surprising and actually refreshing. While it doesn't make it ok, I can at least appreciate that he doesn't try to insult our intelligence by acting like he was giving 100%, as almost all players will.
It's a tough thing to understand for us fans from both sides. For one, you're playing pro football for a living and already making a lot of money doing it. How could you not enjoy every second and go all out? There's thousands of people who would kill to take your place. There's millions of fans that really care investing their time and money into watching you.
But at the same time, you've got maybe one shot at getting a contract that sets you and your family up potentially for life. If you break a leg, that contract may never come. Look at Steve Smith for instance. Now, he's not going hungry or anything, but he was on the verge of life changing money with the Giants and suffered a terrible knee injury. He hasn't sniffed the kind of money he was set to get since then and very well may never again. There's no doubt, that has to mess with your head.
Either way though, the NFL and Philadelphia particularly is a "what have you done for me lately?" kind of place. Everyone knows DeSean wasn't giving it all last year and no one is going to excuse him for it. But if he does go all out this time around and has a big season, I don't think anyone is going to care anymore.
The Philadelphia Eagles will take on the New England Patriots tonight in what will serve as their "dress rehearsal" for the 2012 season. Typically, teams will wait until the 3rd preseason game to give the starters extended time, but the Eagles face a quick turnover this week with Cleveland coming to Philadelphia on Thursday. With 11 days to prepare for tonight, the Eagles have opted to focus on this game as their primary regular season prep.
There will be a few notable position battles to watch tonight.
Weakside linebacker - This one is really wide open at this point. Brian Rolle will start, but after a rough outing against Pittsburgh, Jamar Chaney is likely to see some snaps with the first team as well. Keenan Clayton should also be in the mix here a well. A strong showing from any of those guys could be cause a shuffle on the depth chart later this week.
Punter - Matt McBriar was decent last week while Chas Henry was inconsistent. These two should get equal opportunities tonight for round two of their battle. It will also be worth watching who takes snaps at holder. Henry got them all last week, but if McBriar gets a few tonight, it could be a sign that his grip on a roster spot is tightening.
Left Tackle - King Dunlap will get his first start at LT this preseason and is expected to take all the first team snaps. A solid performance from him tonight could all but ensure that he starts week one at LT. Dunlap has really played well at almost every opportunity over the past couple years, so it could be a real story if he grabs this starting job. On the same token, it will be worth watching Demetress Bell with the second team. He wasn't very good in his debut, but it was just 6 snaps. Expect the Eagles to run one of their stretch plays with him early to see if he's more active than he was last week.
Here are a few players not locked in a position battle that will be worth keeping any eye on anyway.
Mychal Kendricks - It will be a baptism by fire tonight for the rookie as he arguably faces a tougher test than any he'll face in the regular season. the Patriots' TE duo of Aaron Hernandez and Rob Gronkowski should serve as a great barometer for where Kendricks is right now as far as coverage. He doesn't need to shut them down, but if he can stay competitive there, we should take that as a really good sign.
Nate Allen - Nate will make his preseason debut tonight and should have progressed to the point where he's a leader and a difference maker in the secondary. He's heading into year 3 now, so the flashes he's shown in previous season need to evolve into consistency. More than anything though, I think we're all interested to see how the defense looks sans Jaiquwan Jarrett at safety. If Allen just manages to avoid taking out his own guys, he should be a notable upgrade.
Jaiquawn Jarrett - Speak of the devil... Jai Jar's preseason debut couldn't have gone worse. But tonight is another opportunity. Up until that Pittsburgh game we'd heard a lot of good stuff about Jarrett and he'd had a good summer. It was a disastrous game for sure, but his problems were mental mistakes. Physically, speed-wise... He seems to be NFL caliber. Without the mental aspect though, it won't matter. It will certainly be worth watching him tonight to see if he's learned from his mistakes.
Michael Vick - He really never even got started against the Steelers, with just 6 snaps before the starters were done for the night. So really, tonight will be our first real extended look at Vick this season. It's preseason with a vanilla offense so I'm not expecting fireworks, but we do want to see him looking comfortable in the pocket and making good decisions.
"I’m very excited about playing against New England," Vick said. "I’m looking forward to getting out there and playing three quarters, getting into a rhythm, seeing their defense, reacting, and just playing the game and having fun playing the game of football. I’m very excited about that and I can’t wait."
After the starters struggled against the Pittsburgh Steelers in an eventual 24-23 win, Philadelphia still has much to prove in this preseason. None of that is lost on Vick, who wants to see improvements against the defending AFC champs.
"Honestly, we want to go out there and score points," Vick said. "We want to be as precise as we can be with getting in and out of the huddle, the tempo, and just get a feel for where we’re at most importantly.
"I think it’s a good test playing against a good defense. They played in the Super Bowl last year, so we’ll have an opportunity to see where we stand. This is a great game to go out and gauge our performance and see where we’re at."
Vick won't have to wait much longer to find out.
Eagles head coach Andy Reid announced on Saturday that four players have already been ruled out for Monday night's preseason game against the Patriots. Mike Kafka, Riley Cooper, Jason Babin, and Casey Matthews will not be active for Philadelphia's second preseason game, via @EaglesInsider.
Kafka was not expected to play after injuring his hand last week. It provides another opening for rookie Nick Foles to take control of the back-up quarterback position behind Michael Vick. Foles was impressive in the Eagles first preseason game, throwing two long touchdown passes against the Steelers second and third-team secondary.
Babin has been hobbled by a calf injury since the start of camp, while Cooper broke his collarbone in the first week of practice.
Andy Reid said that overall, he's just looking for sharpness from his team.
"You want to sharpen yourself up from the last game is what you want to do," said Reid. "We understand we're still in the preseason, but you want to play good football and we have an opportunity to play a good football team. So, I think if you talk to both coaches, we'd probably tell you the same thing; that we want to play better than we did last week and improve and, at the same time, get the young guys in and that second group in for the latter part of the game."
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The Eagles have finished OTAs, mini-camps and even training camp. One preseason game is in the books. We know a lot about this team, but there are still unsettled positions. What jobs are still open?
"Twenty-one thousand. I ain't even got that," Rodgers-Cromartie said, presumably joking, when told of the fine.
Rodgers-Cromartie was given the fine by the NFL for his hit on Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Byron Leftwich in the Eagles Aug. 9 preseason game against Pittsburgh. Rodgers-Cromartie was flagged for unnecessary roughness on the hit.
Rodgers-Cromartie told reporters that he was notified of the fine at practice. When asked about the speculation that the hit could have drawn a six-figure fine, the cornerback was incredulous.
"It's not even a vicious hit... shoot, he got up right from it. I mean, I'll say I left my feet. I can understand that. I can understand a fine coming."
The fine was the first for Rodgers-Cromartie who is in his fifth NFL season.
Philadelphia Eagles cornerback Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie received a fine of $21,000 from the NFL on Friday for his hit on Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Byron Leftwich in the preseason game between the teams on Aug. 9.
Rodgers-Cromartie was penalized with a 15-yard flag for unnecessary roughness on the play and extended the Steelers' drive in the second quarter. The Steelers scored a touchdown on the drive but the Eagles won, 24-23. Rodgers-Cromartie felt that the hit (see below) was a clean one.
The $21,000 fine (a five-percent increase from 2011) was the minimum the league could hand out under the terms of the CBA. Although he leads with his shoulder and not his helmet, Rodgers-Cromartie clearly leaves his feet to strike Leftwich on the play.
The Philadelphia Eagles managed to beat the Pittsburgh Steelers, 24-23, in their preseason opener last Thursday night. The first stringers struggled mightily, however. Michael Vick left during the first series with a hand injury, and the offense was shut out as Philadelphia took a 13-0 deficit into halftime. Vick told the media Friday that offense's primary objective Monday night against the New England Patriots is to light up the scoreboard early.
"Honestly, we want to go out there and score points," Vick said. "We want to be as precise as we can be with getting in and out of the huddle, the tempo, and just get a feel for where we're at most importantly. I think it's a good test playing against a good defense. They played in the Super Bowl last year, so we'll have an opportunity to see where we stand."
Even if Vick hadn't suffered an injury, he would not have lasted much longer in the preseason opener. He will see extended snaps against the Pats, however, giving the offense a chance to find a rhythm before Nick Foles and the second team enter the game. The reps will be critical, and a nice change of pace coming off a shortened 2011 offseason due to the NFL lockout.
"This is a great game to go out and gauge our performance, and see where we're at," Vick said. "I think we have to take it one game at a time. Our next game is against the Patriots. I think we just need to go out and put on the best performance that we can and do the things that we have been coached to do and we know how to do, and do it with confidence."
Andy Reid confirmed today that rookie Nick Foles will be the Eagles #2 QB when the Philadelphia Eagles travel to Foxborough for preseason week 2 matchup with the New England Patriots.
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